[SKIN] Confluence Lite

[Smiff]

yeah I understand, i'm warning people that with a default install, default skin, and the plugins like Movie25, [removed], etc, you will get hangs loading video streams at 720p, which go away by using a lighter skin. and this is even after i did all the usual memory reducing tweaks, turning off uneeded services etc which many users won't know how to do?

not sure what's best for you (x4x) to do, maybe include a(n even) lighter skin, or a warning about 720/1080 in the app or something.. i fear lots of people will just install, set res to 720, install the interesting plugins, find it hangs, not know why exactly or how to fix, and give up on xbmc4xbox?

yeah 480p with this skin works ok, but on some TVs with shitty scalers looks dreadful, never knew this until recently as on my Samsungs it's ok.. getting OT sorry!

if anyone good with skins (Slik author?) knows how to reduce it by 2-3MB it'd be well worth doing.

[fxmech]

yeah I understand, i'm warning people that with a default install, default skin, and the plugins like Movie25, [removed], etc, you will get hangs loading video streams at 720p, which go away by using a lighter skin. and this is even after i did all the usual memory reducing tweaks, turning off uneeded services etc which many users won't know how to do?

not sure what's best for you (x4x) to do, maybe include a(n even) lighter skin, or a warning about 720/1080 in the app or something.. i fear lots of people will just install, set res to 720, install the interesting plugins, find it hangs, not know why exactly or how to fix, and give up on xbmc4xbox?

yeah 480p with this skin works ok, but on some TVs with shitty scalers looks dreadful, never knew this until recently as on my Samsungs it's ok.. getting OT sorry!

if anyone good with skins (Slik author?) knows how to reduce it by 2-3MB it'd be well worth doing.

It's already being/been optimized, as it's in the main branch repository. Of any skin, you can expect the default one (Confluence Lite) to be most fine-tuned.

BuZz didn't mention upgrading to a 128mb Xbox, so it is another option to add to your list of ways to get what you please.

As far as other people go- if they made it far enough to "trying" XBMC4XBOX, they certainly should be able to figure settings is how to fix poor performance. If they can't figure it out, I'd say the onus is on whoever is telling them to try XBMC4XBOX to train them up that far. I understand it's difficult to support other people that don't know how to use resources, but everybody starts some place! Other people never start, because they have pea-brains and don't care to read. What's the worry? :)

Try Rapier Clarity Mod - it's got some nice memory saving when configured correctly. And so far as I have been able to tell is 100% compatible with the current 3.5Beta2.

[Rocky5]

Been using this skin, but one thing I never liked was there was no option to move the homebar to the bottom of the screen. So i done a quick hack to do the job. (latest XBMC4XBOX SVN Version)

Down five posts.

[Rocky5]

Down four posts.

Result

[Dom DXecutioner]

@Rocky5,

Did you do a lot of recoding? I ask because, I believe, a simple setting and slide animation would do the trick! You might have done that but I didn't check the code... Too much on a phone!

[Rocky5]

@Rocky5,

Did you do a lot of recoding? I ask because, I believe, a simple setting and slide animation would do the trick! You might have done that but I didn't check the code... Too much on a phone!

Exactly that

Also updated the code again, added multiimage for homescreen, why that wasn't added I don't know. (should change images ever 5mins)

[Dom DXecutioner]

Nice... As for making the skin lighter, the only way would be to remove all of the includes and hard code views onto the windows. A daunting task, if you ask me!

On a separate note, not to hijack the thread, did you test that other skin on a 128MB? If you get a chance, reply on that thread.

[Rocky5]

On a separate note, not to hijack the thread, did you test that other skin on a 128MB? If you get a chance, reply on that thread.

No sorry , I arsed my 128mb board :-@ don't let the 12v bridge at the dvd drive port lol (I have a 1ghz CPU one but thats in the cupboard)

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Latest Mod file, nothing special just a few minor changes to suit my needs.

Changes:
Added Multi Image support.
Added Lower profile home bar, looks better.
Added the option to enable Homebrew tab in the Programs Sub Menu. (removes Scripts, I could have kept them both but who uses scripts now?)

Update: fixed the multiimage not working.

[Dom DXecutioner]

LOL

i just just thought of something... iiiii, tried to give skinning advice, to youuu... that's like a homeless trying to give financial advice to, well, a financial adviser

either way, nice to see you involved in a little skinning... now, if we only had someone (cough, cough) to fix xperience to properly work on the xbox, that would be nice... hmp! where to look, where to look...

[byron]

As for making the skin lighter, the only way would be to remove all of the includes and hard code views onto the windows. A daunting task, if you ask me!

Roger that...the more you uninclude the better the results are gonna be for RAM (everything is consistently faster). But it's a fine line before it starts taking a bit of a toll on the CPU. Skin variables also made a noticeable difference for me...but I used them sparingly since they boot into memory. Also smaller textures and BGs. Taking high res pngs down even to 50% of original size goes virtually undetected and makes a very noticable improvement...spent quite awile obsessing about this stuff but just my $.02

[NOTTHESAME]

hey everyone I was messing with confluence lite, it is a mess now that i moved items around and has textures that I lowered, 720p use only thoses who it crashes on them

i tired all kinds of ways i still have more ideas but i did spend days and nights.
if you got ideas that can be the skin faster please add so we can make this skin faster.

For update
http://www.xbmc4xbox.org.uk/forum/viewt ... =15&t=3028
runs at 720p no lockups

[NOTTHESAME]

i will try to removing the includes but first send the includes include areas into the views, then see what results i come up with and less ram used.

my main issue with this skin is looking through my movies and then it crashes when sometimes playing, if i turn off fanart this is less likely to happen, if the includes can go directly into the file it should go into this might help this skin run better with out any frezzes or crashes.

[Rocky5]

You can also reduce the preloaditems to reduce the memory footprint, in views & use an advancesettings.xml

Code: Select all

<advancedsettings>
	<fanartsize>710x400</fanartsize>
</advancedsettings>

[NOTTHESAME]

You can also reduce the preloaditems to reduce the memory footprint, in views & use an advancesettings.xml

Code: Select all

<advancedsettings>
	<fanartsize>710x400</fanartsize>
</advancedsettings>

hey thanks i was looking for something like that, i had fanartheight which didn't work let me try fanartsize and see what happens

[Rocky5]

That will only work when generating the thumb, so you will need to remove the old thumbs first.

[NOTTHESAME]

thanks, i cleaned up my xbmc already, with the thumbcleaner, tahnks if you got any other ways to save ram this way please let me know thank you again