Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

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Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by bengalih » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 am

So on my 2TB system my E: drive is partitioned/formatted to the following size:

4,881.63

This seems to be whatever the default was when using xbpt to create the filesystem.

I'm curious if it is possible to make this partition larger (and thus take away some available space from F: or G: drive)?

The reason I am asking is that there seems to be more than this amount of space for available DLC.
Here for instance is a collection of all DLC for the xbox:

https://digiex.net/threads/xbox-offline ... loads.675/

Even excluding the Live only DLC (which is worthless now anyway), the total amount of DLC is probably upwards of 8GB.

This means you can't have the DLC if you own all the games which DLC is available for - because this data gets installed to the UDATA/TDATA folders.

I haven't even tried to partition larger because I don't want to mess anything up - would this cause any problems to the system?

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by shloader » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:19 am

bengalih wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 am
So on my 2TB system my E: drive is partitioned/formatted to the following size:
4,881.63
This seems to be whatever the default was when using xbpt to create the filesystem.
You may or may not know this but I think it's worth restating at this point that the Xbox hard drive doesn't have a partition table in its stock form and all drive partition information is hard coded into the kernel. Any regular Evo, iND or xecutor bios can and will use a partition table if one is created by any drive partitioning app like XBpartitioner.
bengalih wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 am
I'm curious if it is possible to make this partition larger (and thus take away some available space from F: or G: drive)?
Sure. XBpartitioner has always been able to manipulate the sizes of all partitions. However you do this I would recommend you keep the collective size of all your required first five partitions inside the 127GB original LBA limit of the stock kernel, regardless what size drive or bios you do use.
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Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 am
I haven't even tried to partition larger because I don't want to mess anything up - would this cause any problems to the system?
If you're running on a softmod, I would say this runs a fair amount of risk as you'd have to go through more hoops to fix anything. If you have a Chip or TSOP mod... can't break it bad enough that a HeXEn disc wouldn't fix ya in minutes. I'm sure there are other pitfalls with regards to how some games were coded, but it's not like you can really break anything permanent.
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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by Rocky5 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:50 pm

If you’re softmodded or hardmodded custom partitions will work, but like above it’s advised to keep the stock partitions ( especially C if softmodded ) the stock size.

But if you never boot into the stock kernel ( ie if softmodded with an older softmod ) by loading a retail game from a cold boot ( powered off ) then there shouldn’t be any side effects.
( I don’t think there would be any sideffects if the E partition is say 20GB )

As NKPatcher will patch the kernel to read the partition table. Just never change the C partition size.
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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by bengalih » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:16 pm

Rocky5 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:50 pm
If you’re softmodded or hardmodded custom partitions will work, but like above it’s advised to keep the stock partitions ( especially C if softmodded ) the stock size.

But if you never boot into the stock kernel ( ie if softmodded with an older softmod ) by loading a retail game from a cold boot ( powered off ) then there shouldn’t be any side effects.
( I don’t think there would be any sideffects if the E partition is say 20GB )

As NKPatcher will patch the kernel to read the partition table. Just never change the C partition size.
Thanks Rocky5 -

I went ahead and used xbpt to make the drive 10GB instead of the ~5GB it was allocating. Kinda sucked because I had already copied over pretty much all the games when I realized that I needed about 6-7GB of space for all the DLC/updates, etc. So, I have to ftp all the games back which will take a few days.

For any interested I used xbpt. First I had to disable my F: and G: partitions (right thumbstick). Then I was able to go to Partition 1 (E:) and changed the size to 10GB. Then I re-enabled F: and G: and used "B" to distribute the available space again.

The only strangeness I then had is after I wrote the table and formatted things my X3 Live Config was not showing the F: and G: drive sizes properly. So I used the X3 tools to reformat those partitions which then reported as ER (error?) in xbpt. I then reformatted them a second time within xbpt and then everything was seeing them right. I'm not sure why xbpt basically needed 2 format operations (I expect that X3 maybe messed the cluster size up)...but all is good.

I'll report back if I experience and weirdness with this configuration.

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by Rocky5 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:30 pm

enable the partition table support in the X3 HDD menu.
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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by bengalih » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:34 am

Rocky5 wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:30 pm
enable the partition table support in the X3 HDD menu.
Yeah - there is an option called "Use saved partition table" under the new HDD setup. It is the only setting that seems to deal with this.
It is/was already enabled as I found out when I first upgraded my drive to 2TB that if it wasn't turned on X3 kept "resetting" my drive information.

So the issue I was having this time was not that. I can't really say what it was, but the steps I outlined above got around it - just not sure why I had to do them.

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by TeleTubby666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:37 pm

Will this also work with an Xecuter 5035 Bios?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by commod » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:16 pm

That would be nice!
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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by quark » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:09 am

It works, but doesn't go over the limitation of 2.2Gb

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by TeleTubby666 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:09 am

As stated here by Rocky it seems to work with 5035 als well:

http://www.emuxtras.net/forum/viewtopic ... 19c#p76460

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by quark » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:26 pm

Yeah, as I said in my last post, it works. I did test it yesterday with a 3tb hd (x2 5035), but nothing interesting with it if you cannot go over the 2.2gb limit. Didn't tested to upload games yet, but boot time seems to be slower.
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3tb hdd

Post by HeavyMetal » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:04 am

I know this is a different topic but does any one know how to correctly size partitions f and g if I've got a 3tb HDD in my og Xbox?

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by Coldly-Indifferent » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:32 am

You mean you're using a 3TB HDD and are happy just to use (roughly) 2TB of it, the maximum size the Xbox supports.

I'd assume the standard advice applies whether hard or softmodded and that is F and G MUST be of equal size if you want to use the full 2TB.

That means less than 1024GiB in each - I'd make it simple and say 1000GB in each maximum just for safety. Use XBPartitioner v1.3 (must be this version) to do this and it should correctly partition F and G (6 and 7) using 64K clusters.

Google for YT tutorials on installing and partitioning larger Xbox HDDs for more info but that is basically it.

Believe me you do not want the pain of dealing with an incorrectly partitioned larger HDD because if you've partitioned it wrongly or with the wrong cluster size it will corrupt. The only fix is to re-partition which means losing everything already on F and G.

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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by Sim » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:28 pm

Coldly-Indifferent wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:32 am


That means less than 1024GiB in each - I'd make it simple and say 1000GB in each maximum just for safety. Use XBPartitioner v1.3 (must be this version) to do this and it should correctly partition F and G (6 and 7) using 64K clusters.
Apologies to jump in there quick on my first post. Can I note I just formatted a drive with 1014GB on each F and G partitions all going smoothly so far
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Re: Creating E Drive larger than 4-5GB?

Post by Coldly-Indifferent » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:14 am

Its when you reach the limit on one or the other that the problems occur.

It also depends on what exactly 1014GB means - if that is what the Xbox itself is reporting ie. 1,014,000MiB on F and G then you're OK because that is actually 990GiB (base 1024)

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