Is XVID HD worth it?

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by m7cky » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:02 am

I'd really appreciate that!
Only used ps3ms before as a server, was ok but I'll give MT a go.
Thankyou!

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:02 pm

i reciently got a set of hd wires with my x3 xbox. what do you guys think is it worth it? is there a certain hd video file i can download or do i have to convert all my downloads? if i do is this not very time consuming making it not really worth it? the dvdrips i have are all between 700mb and 1.37gb would the size also increase alot?

ive also got a 750gb hdd installed so size shouldnt be an issue for now. also is there any drawbacks to using the hd setup? for example do original games and emulators work on these settings as well as video plugins etc?

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:06 pm

running in 720p makes a massive difference whether you are playing back 720p content or not. All games should work, running in 480p etc. A very small number of games support 720p afaik.

digital audio also makes a big difference.

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by Geeba » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:56 am

Yep like BuZz says... different world! I wouldn't run an Xbox without HD leads now! :D

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:07 pm

downloaded ffmpeg but couldnt get it to work, never used the program before and had no knowledge of it so had to use google to install the program.

once i got it installed it seemed top be working well, so i downloaded a mkv to test (falling skies s03e03) and no joy. the program just cant seem to find the file no matter where i move it to or what i rename it to. my results are below:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner> ffmpeg -i Falling_Skies_S03E03 -scodec copy
-acodec copy -vcodec mpeg4 -b:v 3000k -maxrate 5000k -bufsize 4096k -s 1280x720
-f matroska -y outfile.mkv
ffmpeg version N-54117-gf9739a3 Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
built on Jun 19 2013 23:42:15 with gcc 4.7.3 (GCC)
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-av
isynth --enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --enab
le-iconv --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libcaca --enable-libfreetyp
e --enable-libgsm --enable-libilbc --enable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --ena
ble-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-l
ibopus --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsoxr --enable-libsp
eex --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-
amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --
enable-libxvid --enable-zlib
libavutil 52. 37.101 / 52. 37.101
libavcodec 55. 16.100 / 55. 16.100
libavformat 55. 9.100 / 55. 9.100
libavdevice 55. 2.100 / 55. 2.100
libavfilter 3. 77.101 / 3. 77.101
libswscale 2. 3.100 / 2. 3.100
libswresample 0. 17.102 / 0. 17.102
libpostproc 52. 3.100 / 52. 3.100
Falling_Skies_S03E03: No such file or directory

any help with this would be great. thanks guys
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:09 pm

you didn't include the file extension. You can tell windows to properly display a file extension rather than hiding them etc. but from cmd you can check the full name of the file by doing "dir" and seeing the files in the current folder. you can use "dir" to check the file you want is actually in the current folder too.

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:16 pm

sori mate that was the wrong example . in that one i tried to get the program to scan the folder the file was contained in without any luck. also tired as you suggested with the actual file .mkv without joy again

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner> ffmpeg -i Falling_Skies_S03E03.mkv -scodec c
opy -acodec copy -vcodec mpeg4 -b:v 3000k -maxrate 5000k -bufsize 4096k -s 1280x
720 -f matroska -y outfile.mkv
ffmpeg version N-54117-gf9739a3 Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
built on Jun 19 2013 23:42:15 with gcc 4.7.3 (GCC)
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-av
isynth --enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gnutls --enab
le-iconv --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libcaca --enable-libfreetyp
e --enable-libgsm --enable-libilbc --enable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --ena
ble-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-l
ibopus --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsoxr --enable-libsp
eex --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-
amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --
enable-libxvid --enable-zlib
libavutil 52. 37.101 / 52. 37.101
libavcodec 55. 16.100 / 55. 16.100
libavformat 55. 9.100 / 55. 9.100
libavdevice 55. 2.100 / 55. 2.100
libavfilter 3. 77.101 / 3. 77.101
libswscale 2. 3.100 / 2. 3.100
libswresample 0. 17.102 / 0. 17.102
libpostproc 52. 3.100 / 52. 3.100
Falling_Skies_S03E03.mkv: No such file or directory
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:29 pm

if it can't find the file, I can only assume that file is not in the current folder.

Check the output of the "dir" command.

Where did you copy the file ? If the file for example is in "My Documents" you can do

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cd "My Documents"
from the folder you are currently in to move to the "My Documents" folder.

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:40 pm

nope still cant get it to work. did what you suggested moved my mkv to the my documents folder. my results

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents

20/06/2013 12:32 <DIR> .
20/06/2013 12:32 <DIR> ..
20/06/2013 12:29 <DIR> Downloads
20/06/2013 10:30 1,209,290,288 Falling_Skies_S03E03.mkv
20/06/2013 11:07 764,655 FFmpeg Select the 32.docx
01/01/2006 08:22 <DIR> My Music
07/06/2013 13:03 <DIR> My Pictures
09/05/2013 14:12 <DIR> PhotoFiltre Studio X
01/01/2006 09:15 <DIR> Rainmeter
01/06/2013 08:59 <DIR> SCREENSHOTS
16/05/2013 13:27 <DIR> Soulseek Chat Logs
08/05/2013 09:47 <DIR> VirtualDJ
2 File(s) 1,210,054,943 bytes
10 Dir(s) 125,077,975,040 bytes free

as you can see the falling skies episode is listed there but still same result. is there anything else i could try?
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:44 pm

can you post on pastebin, the complete output from the cmd windows from you moving to the my documents folder to doing dir, and then running ffmpeg. And you should be able to use tab completion also, so type ffmpeg -i F<tab> to fill out the filename (avoids mistakes, and makes sure it is correct).

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:07 pm

had a go hopefully i did it right. got a different result this time - results below


http://pastebin.com/cJVRHChC
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:11 pm

you got the ffmpeg commandline wrong. you did "- filename" rather than "-i filename". please repeat with pastebin log with correct ffmpeg parameters. thanks.

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:21 pm

i would post the code but........ SUCCESS!!!

i notice that this is converting into another mkv is this down to the code in the command line ie can i change the output to avi and stream this via smb to xbox?

if not i assume mediatomb may be needed?
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:24 pm

the mkv is just a container - not a codec, and is well supported by xbmc4xbox - don't need to use avi. this file should play fine on xbmc4xbox. if you use analogue audio, you might need to fiddle with the bitrates and optionally trancode the audio (I use passthrough so like to keep the original multichannel audio etc).

mediatomb allows you to do this automatically, so I can realtime click/playback any 1080p h264 video on the xbox, with it being transcoded via ffmpeg

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:32 pm

actually just realized mkv would play on the xbox. thanks for all the help man.

i plan to use these rips on both sd tv set up and another xbox with a lcd tv via 720p cables. Obviously these will work np on the hd setup. as for the sd setup is there a program to use i can easily change the audio bit-rate for sd playback?

maybe im wrong but should i just use dvdrips with the sd setup [ and keep these rips for the hd set up? ] the sd tv probs wont show much difference anyways
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:43 pm

well, the transcoded file here will play fine no matter the output res of the xbox, but wont look as good on SD of course. the audio can be transcoded if needed, but xbmc4xbox can decode the 5.1 DTS etc without a problem - although it may use a bit more cpu than stereo mp3.

If you want to play back the files on multiple xbmc4xbox setups, I wouldn't bother making different conversions.

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:59 pm

happy days that's great news, cant wait to see this on my lcd with 720p cables unfortunately i cant always get to the lcd and have to use another set up in my garage with just a standard tv. it was just you saying about having to adjust the bitrates if playing sd thats all. you think there will be much need to change it? at least i dnt have to encode it twice :roll:

anyways im hopefully soon gona pick up another set of wires for the sd set up which inc an optical out (due to the optical out i have with the 720p set up to the amp sounds great :lol: ) this will replace the red and white wires i have to my amp in the garage and hopefully that will improve thing alot. 8-)
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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:06 pm

you dont have to adjust the bitrates. you should have a file that plays on xbmc4xbox no matter the output. playing it on SD output just means it won't look as good.

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by sixties keith » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:16 pm

man this is awesome just tested on the sd and its sweet. away to test on 720p now. 1 last question is it only for mkv hd rips or are other file types supported?

also anyone else reading this bear in mind id never done anything like this before and seemed daunting at the start but it was perfect help form Buzz that got it working. ;) now i have 720p films and tv shows!!!!! my computers are gona be on for a while now :roll:

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Re: Is XVID HD worth it?

Post by BuZz » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:22 pm

I'm pleased it's working well for you :) should work for any input format within reason depending on ffmpeg's support for it. give it a try and see.

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